Climate Change - the case against government action
This is a guest post by The Pedant General
In a comment on the earlier thread inspired by the Met Office's inaccurate predictions of a warm winter, Sue R asked: Why are people so keen to deny global warming?
That entirely misses the point.
The fact that we are noticeably warmer than we were 5, 50 or 150 years ago is not remotely interesting. We were and are emerging from a (non-man made) little ice age.
The vital question is whether we are warmer than we were 1000 years ago, and that is very definitely not settled science in any way shape or form.
And... even if we are warmer than we were 1000 years ago (which, for the avoidance of doubt, is denied - the historical record is pretty clear that it was indeed significantly warmer - one reason the science isn't settled BTW), it is not at all clear whether this change is man-made to any really significant degree.
And, even if:
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And, even if:
Thus, Sue's claim that "the weather/climate is changing and it is necessary for governments to act upon it " is a monster fallacy of well known form:
Or is that akin to being a young earth creationist?
The PG usually writes at Devil's Kitchen, for example here.
In a comment on the earlier thread inspired by the Met Office's inaccurate predictions of a warm winter, Sue R asked: Why are people so keen to deny global warming?
That entirely misses the point.
The fact that we are noticeably warmer than we were 5, 50 or 150 years ago is not remotely interesting. We were and are emerging from a (non-man made) little ice age.
The vital question is whether we are warmer than we were 1000 years ago, and that is very definitely not settled science in any way shape or form.
And... even if we are warmer than we were 1000 years ago (which, for the avoidance of doubt, is denied - the historical record is pretty clear that it was indeed significantly warmer - one reason the science isn't settled BTW), it is not at all clear whether this change is man-made to any really significant degree.
And, even if:
- we are warmer than we were 1000 years ago and
- we are causing it to some significant degree
And, even if:
- we are warmer than we were 1000 years ago and
- we are causing it to some significant degree and
- we are really able to influence it the other way
And, even if:
- we are warmer than we were 1000 years ago and
- we are causing it to some significant degree and
- we are really able to influence it the other way and
- doing so is necessarily necessary
And, even if:
- we are warmer than we were 1000 years ago and
- we are causing it to some significant degree and
- we are really able to influence it the other way and
- doing so is necessarily necessary and
- it's more cost effective to try adapt the climate itself
And, even if:
- we are warmer than we were 1000 years ago and
- we are causing it to some significant degree and
- we are really able to influence it the other way and
- doing so is necessarily necessary and
- it's more cost effective to try adapt the climate itself and
- this is a better use of our money than any of the myriad other much better uses of our money
Thus, Sue's claim that "the weather/climate is changing and it is necessary for governments to act upon it " is a monster fallacy of well known form:
- something must be done (which is denied)
- A is something (A is not shown to be effective)
- therefore A must be done (logical fallacy)
- A must be done by the government.
Or is that akin to being a young earth creationist?
The PG usually writes at Devil's Kitchen, for example here.
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